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Scarpa Terminator X Pro Telemark Boot Review
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Berg's Ski ShopEverything you have been looking for in a Telemark boot is here in the Terminator X boots!!! The new norm Unveiled after much anticipation...No more Telemark 75mm boot toe; more power and control; same free heel spirit. Why drive a Pinto when you can drive a Ferrari on the open road!!! Total edge grip with perfect power transfer edge to edge. Drive the ski as fast and as hard as you like as the NTN will give you the freedom to float or fly down the mountain. Bonus for anyone that likes to play the field...drop these into any A.T. binding on the market and you are ready to rock!!! It's even Dynafit compatible so you can go as light as possible. Easy to throw crampon's on them or just kicking steps as there is no duckbill anymore. I(Jarl) spent the whole last season on these and I am so pleased with the performance of these boots and now that they are updated with the new-and-improved lower half Tri-Injected molded scaffo they are only going to ski better!(I love the new look actually...kinda like wingtips :-) ) NEW From the Berg's Staff.With Extensive and intensive testing in the North West we challenge ourselves to think outside of the box, and this is what we came up with. All NTN boots meet Alpine Touring/Randonnee DIN standard dimensions so why couldn't you use them in all standard Alpine Touring bindings- our resounding answer is YES YOU CAN! Not only do you get the benefits of a lighter boot, better stride, and overall less fatigue from all NTN boots we tested, you also get a resort Alpine or Tele setup at the same time. We will be the first to admit that the Alpine stance is a little different with NTN boots, but this doesn't mean you can't ski aggressive and still enjoy all the backcountry; or just walking benefits of a flexible bellow. Features: - Inner Boot (liner): SCARPA Intuition Precision High
- Sheel/ Cuff/ Tongue: Pebax®
- There are Three Buckles plus a Power Strap
- Forward Lean: 16-19
- Sole: Telesystem SCARPA/Skywalk®
- Weight: 2820 gr. a pair(size 27)(4lbs. per our scale 28.0)
- Sizes made are 26.5 - 30
Marmot MountainRottefella designed the NTN binding, and Scarpa is one of two companies that has developed a telemark boot for the binding. NTN bindings are all about maximize downhill CONTROL. See the NTN binding text in the Telemark binding section. The Terminator X PRO is a light \4-buckle boot, which has what could be considered a "second heel", behind the ball of the foot where the NTN binding locks in place. They still have a toe bellows for telemarking, but it is NOT compatible with any other telemark binding as it lacks the square toe. However, unique to the Terminator-X, is that it is compatible with one of the Randonn?e bindings on the market, the very light Dynafit. Think of it as a boot/binding combination, which will give good control when telemarking, and a quite light set up for ski mountaineering, all in one boot. The dual density plastic Torsion frame maximizes lateral stability, which combined with a tall overlapping cuff and power strap gives you good support for skiing in any conditions. A replacement edge guard protects the bellows from cuts and bruises. For a liner, Scarpa has partnered with Intuition, the worlds most experienced thermo-liner manufacturer using the best foam (Ultralon) available. No one has been able to duplicate the long-term resilience and durability of this foam. It packs out less, can be remolded more often, and is quick drying. The Scarpa liners are pre-lasted at the factory, use Zero-Stitch Contact construction to prevent unnecessary pressure points, and have an overlap closure to give support and maximize volume control. They are reinforced in high wear areas, and can be used as a hut bootie. For mail order customers, any good downhill ski shop can assist you with heat molding. In Scarpa sizing, each ? size and the full size above it, are identical shells and identical liners once heated up during the fit process.
Mountain GearYou can annihilate any tough snowscape with Scarpa's totally versatile Terminator X Pro boot, a tough Telemark boot that provides a new level of control with a high-quality liner and an extra cuff buckle. Make your touring style what you want it to be with the TLT fittings that allow you to free-heel or ride fixed all with the comfort of stiff, triple- and bi-injected Pebax uppers, an easy to work with pivoting tongue, and a cushy, heat-moldable Intuition liner. Compatible with NTN binding. f09skiboot Specifications based on size 27. Features:- 4 buckles with Power Strap
- Bellows are protected by the dual-injected edge guard
- Created with a gender-specific last, Intuition Precision High liner fits precisely without pressure points thanks to hidden stitching while a silicone tread gives you traction
- For maximum performance, these boots require the use of the included slide TLT Adapter Plates that attach to the Dynafit Ski Crampon fittings to prevent bellow sag
- Slide your foot in and out easily with a pivoting tongue that stays out of the way
- Support your ankles and feet with a triple-injected Pebax shell and bi-injected cuff that provide flex where you need it and rigidity where support is required for fast descents
- Tech insert compatible boots that are not compatable with any AT binding other than Tech bindings - Dynafit TLT-style binding and G3 Onyx binding
- Your ankles and feet are protected from cold, shocks, and chatters by an Intuition Precision High Liner - a thick layer of heat-moldable Ultralon foam that can be molded repeatedly without packing out over time
Backcountry.comThe Scarpa Terminator X Pro Telemark Ski Boot gives you the combination of a seriously stiff upper and NTN compatibility to help you rip the steepest backcountry lines with ease. In fact, the Terminator X Pro also works with TLT alpine touring bindings, so can lock down your heels without buying a whole new pair of boots. This tele boot ranks as the toughest in the Scarpa line thanks to a burly Pebax shell, moldable Intuition Precision High liner, and a four-buckle system with an added power strap. It also includes a Vibram sole to make your approach postholing a bit nicer. Bottom Line:If you can’t get it done in this boot, you can’t get it done. USOutdoor.comScarpa Terminator X Pro Ski Boots Presenting the strongest telemark boot to match the most powerful telemark binding! And it can be used in TLT alpine touring bindings too! Features:- Binding System: NTN, TLT
- Buckles: 4 + Power Strap
- Forward Lean: 18 - 22 degrees
- Inner Boot: Intuition Precision High
- Product Code: 12203/500
- Shell | Cuff | Tongue: 100% Pebax®
- Size: 24.5 - 30
- Sole: Vibram® Evo
- Weight: 1670 grams, 3lbs. 10oz. (1/2 pair size 27)
good fit; too soft
Lotus at Backcountry.com on 02/01/2010 Rated:  I like soft bellows and big cuffs, My old favorites were Crispi XRs. The big yellow boot that flexed like leather. These sounded like they were going to be perfect for me and I liked them out of the box. Nice fit with the best liners on the market, lots of room in the toe box, easy to get in and out of and comfy to walk in.
All aspect of performance were good but the bellow is just to soft for East coast hard pack. I might have enjoyed them back West but out here I need something that pushes back more. To bad the comp doesn't have touring features or I might have tried that. Maybe next year.
They're okay, but...
TeleFlightRN at Backcountry.com on 12/21/2009 Rated:  I'd posted a completely positive 5-star review earlier, but after skiing these 20 days, I've had a change of heart. Initially, the Pros seemed up to the job, driving my Hell Bents well w/blue springs on 2. Now, after skiing several different snow types, I have to say the boots just don't have the power I was hoping for. That's even after swapping my blue springs for reds and dialing them to 3 (I'm 5'9", 165lbs), and adding a Booster strap (like the Comp is already equipped with). The fit is decent and I'd still recommend them to someone primarily using them in the BC or someone less-aggressive on thinner skis. As far as fit, I wear a US 9, 26.5 T1, and the TX Pros fit is virtually identical. Hopefully after I exchange these for TX Comps I can sell my T1's, 01's, etc....?
Works superbly, totally different from last year!
fatsam 19 at Backcountry.com on 12/15/2009 Rated:  I have to agree with Ben, its unfair to list these with last year's reviews.
I had last years boots, and really enjoyed them 'til the broke. I've now spend 8 days on my new boots and I love them.
They are definitely more powerful than last years, so it took a bit of time for me to get the right "feel" on the back ski, but once I slowed everything down they started to sing.
Really looking forward to the season ahead now!
Skied like an old friend out of the box
Revrundtelemark at Mountain Gear on 12/12/2009 Rated:  Right out of the box these boots felt like old friends. I had no problem flexing the bellows even though my first day on them was 2 degrees F. They were warm all day and caused no blisters, bumps or pain at all. I did have them fitted and "thermo'd" at the store for a perfect fit (Highly recommended. The walk mode performed as it should as did the buckles. I am on the G3 Tonic and had NO problem driving the skis through all sorts of nasty early season Pacific Northwest crust and crud. I am 5'7" 170 Lbs and use a mondo 25 Shell.
Wow
Ben Lyman at Backcountry.com on 12/01/2009 Rated:  OK, they were worth the wait. The X Pro is so comfortable, so versatile, and so rock-solid that I don't think I'll ever put my old alpine or duck-billed telemark boots on again.The NTN cartridges provide the tension under the boot, so the toe is much softer than a duckbilled boot can be, so walking in these babies is effortless. Touring is a blast, and I am very impressed by the myriad adjustments available on this boot for custom fit.I am curious just what the "TLT speed plates" that come with the boot are intended for, as I can't figure out how to incorporate them with either Dynafit bindings or this boot, and there was no documentation on this additional device in the box.
I do think that it is unfair that Backcountry.com is listing this year's model with last years, considering that:1) Last year's boot was recalled, and this is an entirely re-engineered boot;2) The bellows on this year's model is, from what I hear, significantly softer than last year's was--making it a very different boot that deserves a clean start.
Finally, a note on fit. Perhaps it's just because I come from a "performance fit" past, but the sizing chart is off for this boot (in my humble opinion). I usually wear an 11.5 or 12 US, which translates to a 28.5 or 29, but my foot swam in the 28.5 and fits perfectly in the 27.5. When sizing, remember that Scarpa puts the half-size with the next-higher full size in the same shell (Garmont, by contrast, pairs the full size with the higher half-size). This means that the 27.5 and the 28 Scarpa are in the same shell, while the 27.5 Garmont is in the 27 shell.
New boots are comming
Chris at Backcountry.com on 06/24/2009 Rated:  Just got a call from my dealer and new boots are being shipped from Italy to The Netherlands as I write this.
When I get them I will post some pictures and details regarding "riding" them hopefully next week.
Cheers, Chris.
A news about Tx-pro in Japan
mor2577305 at Backcountry.com on 02/04/2009 Rated:  I am a Japanese telemark skier living in Japan, and I am a user of Tx-pro and Tx.
Therefore I inform you of news in Japan about Tx-pro.
A recall on TX-pro is already announced in Japan by a Japanese distributor of SCARPA.
The distributor announced it so that there was a defectiveness point in Shell of Tx-pro when a shell might be broken during the use by the combination with NTN binding.
And the distributor collected all the products which they sold (about the thing without the abnormality) and announced that they changed it for an improved product (they will receive these products in the end of March from SCARPA).
These were announced on the homepage of the distributor (if you understand Japanese, you can confirm this by choosing Japan among the homepage of SCARPA as an area of the distributors).
Tx is not sold in Japan for this season (so I purchased Tx from Backcountry.com of the United States through the Internet).
Therefore, it is not mentioned about Tx in Japan.
However, that the destruction of similar boots happens were reported by various Internet articles.
When I think about the safety in the backcountry, as for me, I must use the old system till improved boots are available.
I was experiencing that these boots give me the splendid performance.
So I am disappointed because for the exchange time of the product is the end of March.
And the reason is because it means that I cannot use these boots at the time of best state in Snow season.
Therefore, I wish SCARPA gives us quickly response.
Great idea but still needs some work
Nick Black at Backcountry.com on 02/04/2009 Rated:  They have had some issues with the bill de-laming and if it happens to your boots you can send them back and they will fix them but what i have been told is they cant fix it untill march. I work at a backcountry gear store and that is what we were told. so if you can make it through the season giver, but scarpa knows the problem and they will fix it for you.
Stay away from these boots for now
hanord1185229 at Backcountry.com on 01/27/2009 Rated:  I agree with David that these boots are great, however, there's a production fault and I've broken 3 pairs in six weeks. The store ran out of replacements and now I'm grounded in the middle of winter. People say that Scarpa started producing new boots that are guaranteed to not break, but they're tight-lipped and won't say when the new boots his the stores. I'm considering switching from NTN back to classical tele bindings.
Fantastic 'till they break
David Belden at Backcountry.com on 01/14/2009 Rated:  Amazing boots. Great control, fit, power, etc. Absolutely loved 'em until I broke the toe/bill/bellows on day 6. After some research online I found out that lots of the TX Pro's have been cracking this year. So they're fabulous, except that they break. If they fix it, I'll be back on 'em in a heart-beat. But in the mean-time I'm SOL.
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